Posts by Closer to Fine

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Advice

by Tigerlove in

hello, new member here.

i have a question that has been bugging me for a couple of months now.

so i have been dating this guy(a witness ) for over a year now.

Hello Tigerlove and welcome. I dated and married a jw. Looking back I believe dating me was more his way of rebelling. He wasn't in love with me. He wasn't baptized so they couldn't really tell him what to do, however, no one in his family was happy about him dating a non-jw girl and he knew it. At the time he enjoyed being the bad boy. We lived many years as I would consider normal with holidays, etc.... Fast forward to now he is more involved with the religion and his opinions have changed. I'm the same as I always been, but now in his eyes I am a sinner who is allowing satan to mislead me. Please believe me, it is a very difficult position to be in. There are many un believing mates on this forum with similar difficult experiences.

Please think very carefully before making any kind of commitment to your boyfriend. He may be enjoying being a bit defiant right now in dating you, but if he changes and starts to follow the jw's you could become the enemy. It is not a good sign that he is afraid to introduce you to his mother.

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What woke you up?

by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

in march of 2014, i was a very active jw, a ministerial servant, gave a public talk, was an attendant for the memorial, and one of 4 cleaning captains for an international convention of 40,000+ attendees.

so what woke me up?

an innocent comment from a co-worker about the candice conti court case rang a bell that could not be unrung.

Closer to Fine

When I was studying, in the beginning I was encouraged to ask any questions I wanted. By the time we finished studying the book, I was then advised to be careful with my questions because questioning the gb was the same as questioning God. I didn't want anything to do with a religion that equated their leaders with God while preaching that everyone else should be humble. I'm still considered the "worldly" one in my husbands family. It's been that way for almost 30 yrs and I'm ok with that.

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Geoffrey Jackson: "That would be presumptuous of us"...

by Calebs Airplane in

within the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.

however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.

he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.

Closer to Fine

I know I was told "questioning the gb is the same as questioning God". In other words.... no one dares to question the gb! I thought I also saw that statement in a publication as well but have no way to search for it.

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"This old system of things"

by JWdaughter in

do jws besides my mom even say that anymore?

Closer to Fine

I think I heard a few years ago that jws were told to stop saying "the society" and "the new order" because they sounded too cult like. My husband and his family say "old system of things" and "the new system of things" frequently.

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GB member Geoffrey Jackson is lying!

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

okay, i know the royal commission hasn't started yet.

but i'm confident enough that he will be telling some whoppers.

so i thought i'd be the first to get a thread started for something that will begin... very soon now!.

Closer to Fine

He claims he has no knowledge of BCG's case? Does he expect everyone to believe the WT Lawyers have not even mentioned the case to him????

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GB member Geoffrey Jackson is lying!

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

okay, i know the royal commission hasn't started yet.

but i'm confident enough that he will be telling some whoppers.

so i thought i'd be the first to get a thread started for something that will begin... very soon now!.

Closer to Fine

He is trying to rattle Mr. Stewart. It won't work ..... Angus Stewart is brilliant.

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Western Decline is a Reality - 2015 Memorial Attendance

by berrygerry in

as has been observed in western congos, the decline is real.. usa is 12.475 % less -2015 vs 2014.

Closer to Fine

I've always wondered why there is so much emphasis put on the #'s for the Memorial. Many attend the Memorial but don't attend any other meetings for the rest of the year. Same thing happens in churches for Easter and Christmas. The parking lots are packed, but only twice a year.

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If you could do anything publicly to get JWs out

by cognac in

jw
friends

and money wasn't an issue, what would it be?

Closer to Fine

If money was no object I would approach the GB members and tell them to name their price. Every man has their price right? The money is theirs but first they have to post videos on their website divulging all the weird stuff in the jw history and admit that it all is a scam. They have to come clean on everything and then disappear with the promise of never to start any new religions ever again. I think I would have to break out and sing that old gospel song "OH HAPPY DAY"!!

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I now hate being called 'sister'

by purrpurr in

jw
friends

since waking up i find i am bridling at being called 'sister'.

but it feels like an identity that is being forced on me.. i feel like shouting "i have a name you know!".

it is just me or does anyone else recognise this?.

Closer to Fine

Yes, Blondie that is how I understood it. Like it was an honor that I didn't deserve until I was baptized. I was also told that I couldn't go out in FS until baptized. I've since been told by others though that isn't true.

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I now hate being called 'sister'

by purrpurr in

jw
friends

since waking up i find i am bridling at being called 'sister'.

but it feels like an identity that is being forced on me.. i feel like shouting "i have a name you know!".

it is just me or does anyone else recognise this?.

Closer to Fine

Maybe it's more comfortable if you grew up a jw, but for me being an outsider it felt and sounded very strange. When I was studying they explained that I really wouldn't be a true sister until I was baptized. Little did they know I was fine with that. My fleshly (yep that is another weird one) sisters are my true sisters.

I agree with the others that posted it's a control/cult term.